Wednesday, July 30, 2008

French Toast... becomes the Universe

French Toast and Existentialism

I have not written much of late; most of my thoughts have not been of the nature of writing : no drama to relieve and only those epiphanies that are too esoteric to easily relay.

My thoughts are not so much on God but the development of religious perspective thereof : traditions, philosophical basis for theology, and the result of its inherent clash with the cultures it converts...

"... the morals we mush know will be shapen and mistaken by our falls along the way"

but in conversation... my thoughts seem to work their way in... perhaps the books I'm reading are a bit too involved...

(7:32 PM) H: and french toast is something that is hard to turn away
i have come down to the decision that i am tired of the desire's of being human, mainly the ridiculousness of human "nature" the whole breeding as a form of status and screw the idea that in order to be "someone" you have to have a someone of the opposite sex to define what or who you are

i am so tired of the human existence as to merely uninformed cattle
humanity is damned
... had to get that off my chest.... i was driving and that thought had crossed my mind

(8:14 PM) Jer: yay! anti-existentialism!!!!
you are in good company
you need to study the gnostics

(8:15 PM) H: they have the same theory?

(8:16 PM) Jer: dreams are the true reality and life is the simulacrum
they believe all of the physical world is a displacement of true reality, where souls are trapped and can only be freed from detaching oneself from physical drives and dependencies

which is essentially what original christianity was about, that and the fact that anyone and everyone could attain this salvation - which was an odd thought in the day
so, it's like budhism with an apocalyptic emphasis

(8:18 PM) H: that sounds comforting

(8:19 PM) Jer: in a way
mostly they just come to the same conclusions that the asians did long before... and then made up a lot of goble-d-gook to explain it and then Paul got the wrong idea (the first heretic) and founded the church on his own principles

in grasping the universe

1. the Tao that can be told of is not the absolute Tao;
the names that can be given (definitions) are not the absolute names
the nameless (god) is the origin of heaven and earth
the named (definable) is the mother of all things

2. the tao that can be told is not the eternal tao
the name that can be named is not the eternal name
the unnamable is the eternally real
naming is the origin of all particular things

3. as for the way, the way that can be spoken of is not the constant way;
as for names, the name that can be named is not the constant name.
the nameless is the beginning of the ten thousand things
the named is the mother of the ten thousand things

4. the way that can be "way-ed" is not the constant way
the name that can be named is not the constant name
what has no name is the beginning of heaven and earth
what has a name is the mother of myriad things.


essentially:

anything that can be defined cannot be eternal/infinite because by being given definition it inherently has limits

anything that can be said is limited by the perception of the speaker and the ambiguity of the words used to describe it

that which cannot be named (because it is eternal, infinite, and boundless) is that which is responsible for creating everything in an endless array which perpetually keeps on producing (the nature of all naturally occurring systems)

establishing definitions to reality gave birth to the limitations by which human kind may understand the world around them

when not seeking, everything is apparent

when seeking, one only sees established definitions, or redefine concepts based on established definitions

both the infinite and the defined are of the same source and it is something that cannot be perceived by the human mind (darkness)

but traversing through the darkness (gaining perception) one can come to see beyond it

(10:07 PM) H: wasn't that what i was trying to get him to see

(10:07 PM) Jer: essentially

(10:07 PM) H: he was stuck

(10:07 PM) Jer: it's Taoist
they figured that out long before greeks became philosophers
and it makes more sense than any western philosophy ever will

(10:07 PM) H: yeah
western philosophy gets stuck on things and focus only on one aspect and do not move on too fast

(10:08 PM) Jer: get some paella ere i go
they defined their focus and by doing so have always ended up in some sort of logical paradox

1 comment:

Porsche Guy said...

Jer,

I'd be interested in reading more about the Gnostics. Do you know of, or have, some suggested titles/authors.

PS: You really need to read the Celestine Prophecy

Lots of love,

Dad